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0 12 003A M HOCHEE JOHN 07-09, 38-39, 51-53 (1789)

Born 1789, in Hyan-Shan, Canton, China

Came to England 1819

Married in 1823

Died 1869

John Hochee was a native of Hyan-Shan in Canton, China, born of Chinese parents in 1789. His father was Ho Foo and his own name was originally Ho Chee. For reasons not fully known, he came to England in August 1819 and settled in Braughing, Hertfordshire. He adopted the name "John." On 6 January, 1823 he married a seventeen year old English girl, Charlotte Mole. In 1825 he moved to the parish of Lingfield, where he farmed. He and Charlotte had eight children. He died in 1869.

Researches by Alexandra Knight (17194F)
1 Her great-grandfather was Henry St.John Knight

(15015BM)

The story of his life has been researched by Alexandra Knight1, a great-great-great grand-daughter of Ho Chee. The following is based partly on her researches and on the 1966 edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica.

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HO FOO was a mandarin

2 Mandarin, general name under the empire for a Chinese magistrate or public official, civil or military. The civil mandarins, chosen from the men of letters or scholars from every part of the country, were divided into nine degrees, each consisting of two classes, the highest of which were ministers of state, counsellors of the emperor, and presidents of the supreme court. Each order was distinguished by a button worn on the top of the cap, while the highest grade also wore a peacock's feather at the back of the cap, not as a sign of office or rank, but as a reward for peculiar merit. The buttons of the higher orders were made of coloured coral, the lower of glass, and the lowest of gilt metal.

Ho Chee was born in Canton, China, in 1789 during the Qing (or Manchu) dynasty. Very little is known about his life except that he was the son of Ho Foo, a mandarin2. The family lived at Hyan-Shan in Canton (now known as Guangzhou in the province of Guangdong) and were landowners. Mandarins were the qualified Government officials and Ho Foo may have been dealing with trade matters, the chief occupation of Canton, which brought him into contact with the East India Company. At this time Canton was a major trading post for the company in China; the East India Company had large tea factories in Canton and had a lucrative and flourishing trade there.

The history of this company in helping to open up China to Western trade is of some interest. With the coming of the industrial revolution, Britain's need for raw materials at home, and markets for manufactured goods and investments abroad, induced that country to take the lead in "opening" China. This was accomplished ultimately by war, in and after 1839, consequent upon more than two centuries of peaceful relations.

3 Peking = Beijing

Relationships between Britain and China.

Attempts at establishing relationships were made from 1635. The Chinese emperor Ch'ien Lung (1736-96) commended George III for his "respectful humility" in sending a "memorial and tribute." The request that an English envoy be permitted to reside in Peking3 was refused, it being disclosed that China itself had no desire to be represented abroad. Ch'ien Lung's official wrote, "As your Ambassador can see for himself, we possess all things. I set no value on objects strange or ingenious, and have no use for your country's manufactures." China's goods, however, are "absolute necessities to European nations"; therefore, "as a signal mark of favour" trade might be carried on at Canton - but not, as the English had asked, at "Ningpo, Chusan, Tientsin and other places . . .," including storage of goods at Peking.

Britain was regarded as a vassal state by the Chinese.

Having dispatched to China an envoy whose conveyances inland bore flags marked "Ambassador bearing tribute from the country of England," and who presented gifts ("tribute") to the imperial court even though he did not perform the kowtow, Britain was definitely rated as a vassal kingdom.

For almost half a century, despite increasing friction over impositions and limitations upon its trade, England maintained peace with the Manchus and their subjects. It was during the Anglo-Chinese wars of 1839-42 and again 1856-60 that Britain took the lead in challenging Manchu-Chinese pretensions to "sway the ten thousand kingdoms," and in insisting upon recognition by Peking of the western state-equality concept.

The Opium trade

Another cause for friction leading to the Anglo-Chinese wars was the opium trade. Foreign, as opposed to native, opium was imported into China first by the Portuguese but later by other westerners. Until April 1834, the East India Company held a monopoly on English trade with China. The Company began farming out opium in Bengal in 1773, in which year the drug was first imported through Calcutta into Canton. Determination of the West to have Chinese teas and products; small demand by the Chinese for western products, including English woollens; unwillingness of the English to pay for Chinese goods with silver bullion; the high value of opium and its popularity for smoking; all these explain the phenomenal growth of the opium trade despite Chinese imperial anti-opium edicts from 1729. These edicts were disregarded by native officials and non officials and aliens alike.

This opium trade may have triggered the wars beginning 1839, but the conflict was basically one between two worlds and two different concepts of international relations.

Through the East India Company, Ho Chee met John Elphinstone.

It would appear that it was through the East India Company that Ho Foo and his son Ho Chee met John Fullerton Elphinstone, eldest son of the Hon. William Fullerton Elphinstone, one of the directors of the company. John Elphinstone was a "Supercargo" in Canton, responsible for managing the sale of goods.

Ho Chee became a firm friend of Elphinstone and followed him to Britain on his return.

Elphinstone was about ten years older than Ho Chee

It appears that Ho Chee and Elphinstone came into contact through their work and became close friends. Elphinstone returned home in January 1816 arriving around April/May 1816. Local stories in Dormansland say that Ho Chee accompanied Elphinstone to England when he became ill, and East India Company records confirm that Elphinstone was indeed prone to Ill health. However, we now know from Ho Chee's application for denization that Ho Chee did not arrive in England until August 1819.

Ho Chee remained permanently in Britain. He may have been helpful with Chinese trade.

Although Elphinstone had fully intended to return to China, he had retired from the East India Company in 1818 due to ill health. The following year we find Ho Chee arriving in England. We can only speculate as to the reasons, but it appears to have been due to their close friendship. This is possibly not the whole story for his coming. Ho Chee was undoubtedly able to speak English and with his knowledge of China and its customs he would have been particularly useful to a merchant such as Elphinstone and the East India Company connections. It is also known that George III had been keen on establishing diplomatic relations with China and Ho Chee's advice via the East India Company could have been valuable in this respect.

The background of the times. There was no love lost between the English and the Chinese.

No love was lost between the English and the Chinese; the official term for the chief of the supercargoes council was "Red-Haired Devil," and all Englishmen were known as "Red-Haired Devil's Imps". In view of this, it is remarkable that Ho Chee and Elphinstone should have become friends. The following extract from "Lords of the East - The East India Company and its Ships" by Jean Sutton, shows the lack of understanding and distrust between the English and the Chinese at that time:

"These seemingly innocent articles in the officers' private trade - generally termed 'sing-songs' - bedevilled the company's trade with China for a hundred years. The Emperor collected them, and so they were highly sought after by the mandarins for bribing their superiors. On the slightest pretext, the mandarin in charge of the customs, the 'hoppo,' stopped the trade, threatening the company with huge demurrage bills until a bribe, of which the 'sing-songs' constituted the most important part, was exacted. Extortion was facilitated by the system of trade with the Europeans. A handful of Chinese merchants, the Co-Hong, bought the right to a monopoly of the trade. Each member of the Ho-Cong was appointed a security merchant to a few European ships and dealt with every aspect of the trade with the ships' supercargoes and, later, the council of supercargoes resident in the season at Canton.

It was therefore the security merchant who was forced to purchase the 'sing-songs' to placate the 'hoppo.' Captain Wordsworth's chiming clock, at £150, was relatively cheap; the more sophisticated - with figures dancing minuets, jigs, and gavottes, birds singing and waterfalls cascading - were extremely expensive, frequently bringing the security merchants to the verge of bankruptcy and so threatening to increase the already unhealthy monopoly of the Co-Hong."

The voyage from China to England was geared to the monsoons; outward journeys were normally only undertaken between April and September, and homeward between November and March. The larger ships (usually those of more than 1200 tons) were used for trade with China. The East India Company used ships of its own fleet, amongst which were ships such as the "Elphinstone" and the "Broxbournebury." The ships were necessarily fast - journeys taking approximately four months - not only for trading reasons but also to outmanoeuvre pirate boats. They were also armed to ward off pirate attacks. Goods brought to England included fans, ivory carvings, lacquer ware and porcelain. After 1700 tea was the major commodity as well as lead, cotton and silks. Commanders and officers were able to trade privately, and traded in sugar, bamboos and spices as well as other luxury goods.
4 Denizen = An alien admitted to residence and to certain rights of citizenship in a country.

Ho Chee may well have had it in mind to return to China after visiting his friend but, presumably because of the close bond with John Elphinstone, decided to stay. He later became a naturalised British subject by denization4 (denization 1839; naturalisation 1854).


Ho Chee settled in Braughing and in 1823 married seventeen year old English girl, Charlotte Mole.

There is a short gap in our information here, but Ho Chee somehow found his way to the village of Braughing in Hertfordshire. We believe Elphinstone lived in or near the parish. It was here in Braughing that Ho Chee met seventeen-year-old Charlotte Mole, the ninth child of Chamberlain Mole who rented Braughingbury Farm, covering approximately 175 acres.

He became known as John Hochee.
Sarah was born in 1824

Ho Chee and Charlotte were married on 6 January 1823 at St. Mary's, Braughing, and they continued to live in the parish for another three years. Ho Chee gradually became known as John Hochee and Charlotte took Hochee for her surname. The following year their first child, Sarah, was born on 7 March 1824, and she was baptised at St.Mary's on 27 July the same year.

John Elphinstone bought Ford Manor, Lingfield, in 1826.

Henrietta born 1826.

Hochee moved to Lingfield.

Early in 1826, John Elphinstone purchased Ford Manor, in what is now the village of Dormansland in the Parish of Lingfield, Surrey, but at that time numbered a few houses and surrounding farms. On 14 March that year, their second daughter, Henrietta, was born at Braughing and they moved to Ford Manor with Elphinstone before she was baptised at the Parish Church of St. Peter and St.

Paul, Lingfield on 30 July 1826. Dormansland and the Parish of Lingfield became home to the Hochee family and it was to remain so, for some time at least, into the next century.

John Elphinstone Fatqua Hochee, born 1828, who later, in his army career used the name of Milton.

Daughter Jane christened in 1831.

5 his maternal grandmother's maiden name

On 12 June 1828, the Hochee's first son was born and was named John Elphinstone Fatqua Hochee, probably in gratitude for the help and friendship of John Elphinstone, who may also have been a God-father. It is also known that one of the Chinese security merchants in Canton was named Fatqua and may have been a relative. However, John Elphinstone Fatqua Hochee was not christened until May 1831 when he was baptised along with his year-old sister, Jane. John E.F. Hochee later used the name John E. Milton5, although this was probably not until after his father's death. He later became a lieutenant in the Madras Army.

John Hochee moved to Nortons Cottage, Lingfield in 1831.

In 1831, Elphinstone purchased Nortons Cottage which he let to Ho Chee. It seems that a new house was built on the same site around this time. This house still stands although its name has been changed several times. It is an impressive building for the area; it has been described by a local historian as a "country house of quiet distinction."

Other children: James, Letitia, Ann, Emily followed.

6 Both Letitia and Ann

became great-great-grandmothers to Alexandra Knight who compiled this section.

Their younger son, James, was baptised in 1832. Letitia Charlotte6 (baptised 12 April 1835) and Ann Hochee6 (born 9 June 1840) followed. Their last child, Emily, was baptised on New Year's day 1845.

Only a year later, on 1 April 1846, their daughter Jane, died at the age of sixteen. She was buried in Lingfield churchyard, where she was to be joined, many years later, by her elder brother and her mother.

Ho Chee referred to as a Gentleman. Assisted John Elphinstone.

It is not known whether either Elphinstone or Ho Chee ever went abroad again. Ho Chee is always referred to as a gentleman on certificates and in Parish Registers, although he may have acted as a secretary to John Elphinstone. Elphinstone owned several other properties in England and Scotland and it seems that Ho Chee managed Ford estate while he was away. Hoopers Farm provided a home for Charlotte's brother Thomas Mole and his wife, and a house known as Crosses was occupied by John Sue Achow, also Chinese, and his family. Achow arrived later in 1832. Thorold Lowdell wrote that, when he was a boy, there were elderly residents who could recall seeing the Chinese about the village.

He petitioned for denization in 1839.

Ho Chee petitioned for denization on the 26 July 1839 giving his status as a yeoman and `reason to believe I should become possessed of Freehold Landed estate..... if the Disability of my being alien born were removed by Letters Patent of Denization or otherwise by Royal Concession or Favour.'

In 1839 John Elphinstone gave Ho Chee his Surrey Estate.

Elphinstone wrote a Deed of Gift in December 1839 giving Ho Chee his Surrey estate following his denization. It may be no coincidence that the news of the confiscation and destruction of the British opium stocks in Canton (March/April 1839) had recently arrived in England. This seizure led directly to the Opium War of 1840. Ho Chee's position in England as a Chinese native would have been untenable in the mounting climate of war and this could have prompted his application for denization.

John Elphinstone died in 1854.

He left property to John Hochee.

In 1854, events took a turn for the worse when John F. Elphinstone died at the age of 75. He was buried in the extra-mural cemetery in Brighton as he had died while staying in the town. It appears that both Elphinstone and the Hochee family often spent the winter in Brighton, as was fashionable at that time. Elphinstone

willed Ford Manor, and several other properties to his friend Ho Chee. In his will he wrote:

"I, John Fullerton Elphinstone in consideration of the long and continued attachment and of the services I have received and for the attention he has given to the management and the improvement of my landed property in Lingfield Surrey On the event of my death I hereby give and devise unto Mr. John Hochee formerly of Macao and of Canton in China but for many years residing at Nortons in the Parish of Lingfield and now by her Majesty's Letters Patent a Denizen of the United Kingdom all my landed property situated in the Parish of Lingfield and County of Surrey known as Ford Farm Hoopers Crosses Nortons Milkhouse Farm together with all cottages or other appendages Manorial rights as may be thereunto belonging."

In 1854, Sarah married Thorold Lowdell.
In 1866, Henrietta married Sydney Poole Lowdell.

In the same year of Elphinstone's death (1854), their eldest daughter, Sarah, married Thorold Lowdell at Lingfield. The Lowdell family lived at Baldwyns, now on the outskirts of East Grinstead, although included in Lingfield parish. The Lowdells were land owners and also in the professions. Sarah and Thorold later moved to Woodgates Farm (also known as Milkhouse farm) which was owned by Ho Chee. On 23 August 1866, Henrietta Ho Chee married Sydney Poole Lowdell, who had trained as a doctor and who eventually inherited Baldwyns. Members of the Lowdell family also became associated in a doctors' practice with the Pococks in Brighton. Crawford John Pocock later married Ann Hochee.

The mystery of Letitia Hochee and Anthony Knight.

Secret marriage in 1860.
Second marriage, with the family in 1861.

After marriage, Letitia and Anthony went abroad to New Zealand.

One of the unsolved mysteries of this family is that of the marriage of Letitia Charlotte Hochee to Anthony Knight. On 24 October 1860, they were married at All Souls, Marylebone; no member of either family witnessed the marriage and, if anything, it seems to have been secret. In the census of 7 April 1861 Letitia Charlotte is living at Nortons and she has been declared unmarried, presumably by her father. On 1st August 1861, Anthony and Letitia married again at Lingfield, with members of both families present. It may be no coincidence that Elphinstone owned number 23 York Terrace, Regents' Park, a near neighbour of number 3 Cornwall Terrace, owned by the Knight family. Within a short time of this second wedding they emigrated to New Zealand and did not return until both their fathers had died.

In 1864, James, now a surgeon, married Emma Fry.

On 27 July 1864, James Hochee, who was by this time a surgeon, previously working in India, married Emma Fry at Redhill; they later lived at Finchley and were the only ones to perpetuate the Hochee name as John E.F. Hochee did not marry.

Around 1867, Ford Manor and the surrounding land was sold off, although various farms and cottages were kept. The following year a new house, now known as Greathed Manor, was built near to Ford Manor by the new owners.

John Hochee died in 1869.

Eventually on 1 March 1869, Ho Chee himself died whilst staying at Devonshire House, Brighton. He was buried in a grave adjoining and identical to that of his benefactor, John Elphinstone. One of the provisions of his will was:

"I give and devise unto my said wife Charlotte Hochee all that piece of Freehold land now planted with fir on which a limekiln formerly stood situate at the cross of roads at Dormans Land in the Parish of Lingfield in Surrey."

The Hochee Almshouses at Lingfield.

In the will there is no obvious reason for this but a few years after his death we find that Charlotte gave the Hochee Almshouses, built on this land, to the village.

Marriage of Ann and Emily Hochee

There were two more marriages at Lingfield; on 18 July 1871 Ann married Crawford John Pocock of Brighton and on 24 September Emily married Frank Abrahams of Croydon.

1882: Charlotte died.

Oil painting of Ho Chee and his father Ho Foo now with the Lowdell family.

On 1 July 1882, Charlotte died at the age of 77. She was buried at Lingfield with her daughter; their grave was given a Chinese inscription which reads "Ho Chee." In her will Charlotte left an oil painting of Ho Chee to her sons "with the hope that it will always remain in the family." Portraits of Ho Foo in Chinese robes and a smaller one of Ho Chee in Western Dress are now in the possession of the Lowdell family.

John E.F. Hochee died 1882.
The Hochee Almshouses contains a bust of Ho Chee.

End of the section based on the work of Alexandra Knight

In 1882 Dormansland Church was completed with the help of contributions from local landowners including John E.F. Hochee. John E.F. Hochee died the next year at his London home, 33 Wimpole Street and he was buried with his mother in Lingfield.

The Hochee Almshouses, with a marble bust of Ho Chee himself presiding over the tiny hallway, still survive to this day providing a permanent memorial to this unusual family.

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Some detail of his Naturalisation request is given below:

Applied for Naturalisation in 1839 so he could inherit and own property.

"Denizen" = an alien admitted to residence and to certain rights of citizenship in a country.
"Yeoman" = a countryman, especially one of some social standing, who cultivates his own land.]

In August 1839 he wrote to Lord Russell, Principal Secretary of State for the Home Department

In the Naturalisation records of the London Records Office there is a letter that appears to have been written by Hochee himself applying for citizenship. This initial application appears to have been unsuccessful. He then employed a solicitor to write a second letter. The record is as follows:

Ho Chee - The Petition of Ho Chee formerly of Hyan-Shan in Canton, China but now of Nortons in the Parish of Lingfield in the County of Surrey, Yeoman. To be a free Denizen - Awarded 21 Nov 1839

I Ho Chee of Nortons in the Parish of Lingfield in the County of Surrey, Yeoman a petitioner to Her Majesty for letters patent of Denization do solemnly and sincerely declare that I am a Native of Hyan-Shan in Canton, China that I was born of Chinese parents and am about forty-nine years of age. That I came to England in the month of August in the year one thousand eight hundred and nineteen and resided at Braughing in the County of Hertford until the year one thousand eight hundred and twenty five wherein I went to live in the Parish of Lingfield aforesaid and where I have continued to live ever since. That I have reason to believe I should come possessed of freehold landed estate either in Fee or on lease for life or years if the disability of my being alien born were removed by Letters of Denization or otherwise by Royal Concession or Favour and I further declare that I am the lawful Husband of an English Woman by whom I have a family of six children and am desirous of living permanently in England and that I am undeniably well affected to Her Majesty's person and Government and I make this solemn declaration conscientiously believing the same to be true and by virtue of the provisions of an Act made and passed in the fifth and sixth years of His late Majesty William the fourth entitled an Act to repeal an Act of the present session of Parliament entitled an Act for the more effectual Abolition of Oaths and Affirmations taken and made in various Departments of the State and to substitute declarations in being thereof and for the more entire supposition(?) of voluntary and extrajudicial Oaths and Affidavits and to make other provisions for the Abolition of unnecessary Oaths.

Declared at the Mansion House, London 23 July 1839

Ho Chee

and further,

1st August 1839

To the Right Honourable Lord John Russell Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Home Department. The Humble Petition of Ho-Chee formerly of Hyan-Shan, Canton, China but now of Nortons in the Parish of Lingfield in the County of Surrey, Yeoman.

Thewth - That your Petitioner is a Native of China and was born at Hyan-Shan aforesaid of Chinese parents and is aged forty nine years or thereabouts. That your Petitioner came to England in the month of August in the year one thousand eight hundred and nineteen and took up his abode at Braughing in the County of Hertford and continued that residence til the year one thousand eight hundred and twenty five when he went to live in the Parish of Lingfield aforesaid and has not since resided out of that Parish. That your Petitioner farms an Estate which is called Nortons and he is aforesaid to the different County and Parochial Rates and Assessments in his own name. That your Petitioner on or about the sixth of January 1823 married according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England at Braughing Church, Charlotte Mole of Braughing aforesaid Spinster and Native of that Parish. That your Petitioner and his wife have six children videlicet Sarah, Henrietta, John, Jane, James, Letitia. That your Petitioner has reason to believe that he may become entitled to an Estate of Inheritance in Fee Simple or Lease for Life of lands in the County of Surrey provided no legal impediment existed but your petitioner is advised that being born an Alien he cannot possess Landed or any other Real Property without Her Majesty's gracious Letters of Denization being first granted to your Petitioner.

Your Petitioner therefore humbly prays your Lordship that you will be pleased to grant to your Petitioner Her Majesty's most gracious Letters of Denization and that under the Authority thereof your Petitioner may be enabled to take either by Gift or Purchase landed or other property and your Petitioner will ever pray.

Ho Chee

We the undersigned are well acquainted with Mr Ho Chee and believe him to be rightly deserving of the Indulgence he solicits.

William Rixon Snr - Solicitor, Jewry St, Aldgate - intimate with him from his first arrival

William Rixon Jnr - Solicitor

W.H.Blackmore 16 Gauld(?) Sq, City

Thomas Robson Aylesford, Kent

Brailsford(?) Bright First Gate, Essex.

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Census records for Nortons, Lingfield 1841 ,1861

The British 1841 census Lingfield HO107, 1077, 35 p16, Nortons, described him as a farmer. At that time there were three female servants in the house [Eliza Friend (20), Esther Longend (15) and Hannah Standish (15)] and an Agricultural Labourer [William Lambert (15)].

The British Census of 1861 for Nortons Lingfield, (reference R.G.9/579, 143 page 5), states his age as 70, and that he was born in Canton, but became a Naturalised British subject.

John Hochee's eight children
His death
His last will and testament

Birth certificates and other records show that he and Charlotte had eight children: John, Sarah, Henrietta (known in the family as "Netta"), Jane, James, Letitia, Ann and Emily.

John Hochee died on 1 March 1869 {recorded in the parish of Brighton for the March 1869 quarter, 2b 128 (aged 80).}

A copy of his Last Will and Testament has been studied. It is a long, handwritten, and partly illegible, legal document that showed him as a man of some substance. He left his lands and premises for the use of his wife, although these were eventually to go to his son, John, to be sold, and the proceeds to be equally divided amongst his children.. He gave his servant, John White, £50. He left legacies to his children as follows: Sarah, £200; Henrietta, £700; Letitia, £200; Ann, £700; Emily, £1,700; John, £200; James, £200. He stated he had made these unequal as he had already advanced certain sums to some of his children. [See entry for Charlotte Hochee for mention of an oil painting.]

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The Australian Rumble family's search for details of Hochee and his family.

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Until recently (1991) the Australian branch of the Rumble family knew very little about their Chinese ancestor. In the 1930s and 1940s Dorothy Fall7 thought that Hochee was a mandarin, possibly Ambassador to Britain. This seemed unlikely. Dorothy said:

My mother Kate Rosaline Rumble had a small black mole on her hand. She said this was hereditary, and a branch of the family had been given the name 'Mole'." Dorothy said that Hochee had married a sixteen year old English girl and she thought her name might have been "Mole."

When Dorothy died in October 1988 her son John Fall8 found a scrap of handwritten paper tracing a family tree. Hochee was listed with the note: "from Oxford University." Brenda Rohl9, who was at that time living at Oxford, checked Foster's Alumini Oxonensis from 1715 to 1886 without success. Brenda then obtained a birth certificate for Ann, one of John Hochee's children. This certificate described Ho Chee's occupation as "Gentleman." His residence was given in 1840 as Nortons, Lingfield. From this Brenda was able to consult census and other records to build an initial picture of him.

There was also much initial confusion over the number and names of John Hochee's children. Dorothy Fall knew of two daughters, Letitia and Florence. She said there was also a son who became a captain in the army and changed his name to Meredith as he did not like the Chinese name. Further information was given by Anton Knight10, grandson of Letitia Hochee and Anthony Knight. Anton was brought up for most of his childhood by Letitia. In a letter to Dorothy Fall he omitted the names of Florence and Meredith, but added Annie and Netta Hochee. Henry St.John Knight11 in an 1897 letter to his sister Kate12 stated that "Elphin Hochee married on 20.2.1895," also "Uncle James Hochee died at Finchley at the end of 1896."

We now know that Florence13 was the granddaughter of John Hochee, being a child of his son James14. We also know that John Hochee's other son, John Elphinstone Fatqua Hochee15, became an officer in the army and changed his name to Milton, not to Meredith. The Elphin Hochee who married in 1895 was found to be John Elphinstone James Hochee16, the first child of James Hochee. "Netta" was Henrietta17.

Thus, the complete picture of Hochee's family emerged from a diligent search of the London records. This research was confirmed in 1991 when Brenda Rohl contacted Alexandra Knight who had independently researched the family.